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05-04

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05-03

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05-03

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05-03

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05-03

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04-18

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04-16

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03-27

如果苹果和特斯拉都不拖累标普500 你觉得标普500会涨成啥样你想象一下

03-19

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03-13

还关注中国股市那跟中美脱钩不是自相矛盾吗

外资转向？美银美林：美国机构“更关心”中国股市了

02-24

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2023-12-15

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start;\">　　大模型是不是金矿不重要，手里有没有铲子很重要。作为底层算力的提供方，英伟达从大模型军备竞赛中获益。众人哄抢，造成“一铲难求”，英伟达被推上神坛。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　2024年以来，英伟达的股价上涨超过60%，而在2023年它已经涨了两倍多。它的市值先后超过亚马逊、谷歌，达到接近2万亿美金，成为美股第三、全球第四大公司。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/726ba3bedbd2200293f17a9251c5b8ce\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"377\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　现在，英伟达已经正式取代特斯拉，成为美股成交量最大的公司。它一个晚上的成交额能超过600亿美金，是特斯拉的3倍多。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　整个AI圈几乎要被英伟达“绑架”了。英伟达的股价一直涨，推动AI狂欢继续；只要它的业绩继续超预期，就证明AI不完全是泡沫。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　因此，英伟达的四季度财报，就具有了分水岭的意义。它要么终结这一波AI狂欢，美股掉头向下，要么继续推波助澜，再创新高。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达财报公布前一天，股价提前下跌4.35%，出现今年年内最大单日跌幅；财报公布当天，股价再跌2.85%。然而，财报正式发布后，由于业绩大超预期，股价大涨超过16%，一个晚上市值增加2770亿美元，创美股史上最高单日市值增幅。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达汇集了人们对AI的信仰。但一个“卖铲子”的公司，真的值2万亿美金吗？是谁在爆炒英伟达？</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　<strong>一张卡，两波浪潮</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　现在人们一提起英伟达，必然提到AI。其实英伟达最早的故事，跟AI没有任何关系，它是从一张卡开始的。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　PC时代，大部分高端PC都会配备CPU和GPU。CPU即中央处理器，GPU是图形处理器，前者由几个高效的计算核心组成，擅长通用计算，后者拥有上千颗小计算单元，适合大规模并行计算，尤其擅长图形和视频。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　所谓“计算机”，首先得有计算能力，这两块芯片就是给电脑提供算力的，属于底层硬件。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达做的是GPU，其实就是电脑显示芯片，或者说游戏显卡。过去很多年里，英伟达超过一半的收入都来自游戏业务。可以说，打游戏的人养活了这家公司。这是一门看起来相对传统的生意。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　意外的是，GPU并行计算的特点，非常适合AI计算。2012年深度卷积神经网络（CNN）被发明后，深度学习进入新阶段。训练神经网络需要庞大的计算资源，而GPU的性能和效率远超过CPU。所有“鸡蛋”都在GPU这一个篮子里的英伟达，踩上了AI时代的浪潮。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　第一波浪潮发生在2016年，起因是谷歌的AlphaGo战胜了韩国围棋高手李世石。一大批公司进军人工智能，加大深度学习研究。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达讲了三个故事——游戏、AI计算、自动驾驶。第一个故事是老本行，负责赚钱，后两个故事描绘前景，拉升股价。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　当时，云厂商纷纷在自己的云平台部署英伟达GPU，以增强计算能力。美国的几个科技巨头，以及中国的BAT，都成为英伟达的客户。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　那会儿还涌现出一大批自动驾驶公司，它们被视为人工智能技术的重要落地场景。英伟达和百度、大众、Uber等达成合作，还投资了自动驾驶公司景驰、图森科技，以推销自己的GPU。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　2017年，英伟达成为全球最大的独立GPU厂商，占据70%的市场份额。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　这个故事足够吸引人。从2015年到2017年，英伟达的收入只增长了50%，但股价涨了8倍。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　巧的是，区块链又给这个故事添了一把火。2017年，比特币、以太坊等加密货币价格暴涨，引发“挖矿潮”。“挖矿”就是通过高速计算来获取加密货币，需要用到显卡，显卡越多，挖矿速度越快，赚钱越快。于是，很多人四处购买英伟达GPU，一度被买断货。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　加密货币助推英伟达股价大涨。到了2018年10月，英伟达股价超过290美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　第二波浪潮发生在2022年，触发点是OpenAI发布ChatGPT。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　这一次可以视为人工智能的复兴，因为AI行业过去画的几个大饼——自动驾驶、元宇宙，都是一地鸡毛。英伟达讲的几个故事，也都是草草结尾。在ChatGPT于2022年10月底诞生之前，英伟达的股价跌到了108美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　接下来的故事很多人知道了。AI创业卷土重来，生成式AI成为风口，大模型打头阵。随后，英伟达的股价在一年多时间里涨了6倍。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　这两波浪潮有很多共同点，比如：催化剂都是AI，算力资源被疯抢，科技圈很狂热，英伟达最先受益。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　<strong>卖铲子的先赚到金子</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　相比第一波浪潮，这一波有几个新特点。首先，几乎所有科技巨头都相信，必须训练自己的大模型，为此可以不计成本投入。另外，英伟达真正从中赚到了钱。这是支撑英伟达股价大涨的前提。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　八年前英伟达卖了很多卡，但最后实际用于AI计算的不多，它的营收支柱还是游戏业务。这从财报中可见一斑。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达的收入来自五大板块——游戏、数据中心、专业视觉、汽车、OEM。其中最核心的是游戏和数据中心，AI计算相关的收入都归入数据中心。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　2017年，游戏业务收入55亿美元，数据中心19亿美元，二者占比分别为57%、20%。那会儿英伟达也对外讲AI计算的故事，但风口还不够大。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　也是从那一年开始，英伟达从传统电脑向人工智能转型，数据中心的收入占比逐年提高。而转型的效果直到五年后才彻底体现，一直等到ChatGPT问世。2022年，英伟达数据中心收入150亿美元，占比56%，首次超过游戏业务。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　这是一个重要的转折点。人们开始相信，这一波AI浪潮很真实，因为英伟达的客户们已经用真金白银投票。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　生成式AI被很多人认为是十年一遇甚至百年一遇的大风口，英伟达的GPU又是训练大模型必不可少的硬件。在硅谷，英伟达的A100和H100是“硬通货”，有钱还不一定买得到。有一家创业公司融资23亿美金，给投资机构的抵押物，正是其拥有的英伟达GPU。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　Meta CEO扎克伯格在今年1月对外说，Meta正在构建大规模的算力基础设施，要在2024年底集成35万张英伟达H100显卡，如果算上其他芯片，则共有近60万个H100的等效计算量。外界估算，Meta购买这些芯片的价格至少达90亿美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　国内的科技圈，也以拥有GPU的数量，来评估一家公司开发大模型的实力。腾讯、百度、字节跳动、阿里等巨头，过去几年都囤积了数亿美元价值的英伟达GPU。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　先不说这些卡能训练出多少实用的大模型产品，至少钱先让英伟达赚到了。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达的收入，大约有一半来自消费互联网公司，另一半来自云厂商。全球市值排行榜前列的大型科技公司，基本都为英伟达“充值”了。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　2023年的四个季度，英伟达数据中心的收入一直在创新高。质变发生在二季度，数据中心收入103亿美元，增速高达171%，远超市场预期。此前，这项收入一直只有三四十亿美元。这让英伟达赚取了62亿美元净利润，相当于过去五个季度的总和。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　三季度，数据中心的收入增速更是高达279%，四季度飙升至409%。整个2023年，数据中心为英伟达贡献了474亿美元的收入，是游戏业务的4.5倍，其占总收入的比例上涨至78%，而总收入则增至609亿美元。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3996feb9fea2ced95f39adbbc364e33f\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"373\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　更夸张的是盈利能力。2023年，利润率更高的H100畅销，给英伟达带来巨额利润。公开信息显示，一颗H100售价高达3万美元，其成本不到5000美元。2023年英伟达净利润达到298亿美元，超过之前六年的总和，其毛利率为72.7%，净利率高达48.9%，远超同行。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cec7340be5e1726a33b602499bac7f35\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"358\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　只能说，科技公司们为了拼大模型，是真敢花钱。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　这个时候，我们可以认为，英伟达已经成为一家正宗的AI计算公司。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　投资人投的是未来，看中预期。英伟达的神话能否继续，未来的业绩预估很关键。英伟达给出的指引是：2025财年第一季度收入240亿美元，同比增长234%，超市场预期的218亿美元；毛利率76.3%，也超市场预期的75.1%，再创新高。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　有人相信AI可以点石成金，也有人认为AI催生了泡沫。对于英伟达而言，这些都不重要。它就像一个军火商，只要军备竞赛继续，它就有利可图。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　问题是，军备竞赛能一直打下去吗？</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　<strong>　淘金热结束之后</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　相信英伟达的人，与其说是看好这家公司，倒不如说是看好生成式AI。如果生成式AI最终只是个泡沫，那英伟达的高估值必然坍塌。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　以史为鉴。第一波AI浪潮也曾让很多人疯狂。然而，那波热潮产生的泡沫，直到今天都还没消化完——曾经被资本追捧的AI芯片、自动驾驶，没几个公司赚到钱。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达曾被高估。2018年的加密货币“挖矿潮”中，英伟达的股价创下历史新高，3年翻了13倍。然而随后加密货币泡沫破灭，英伟达的股价在三个月内腰斩。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　2022年4月，英伟达的股价站上289美元的高点后，在随后的一年多时间里又跌去了三分之二。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达还是那个英伟达，但市场情绪瞬息万变，它容易被泡沫推着走。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　有人拿英伟达跟思科类比，2000年互联网泡沫，冲在前面的是思科路由器。它对外讲的也是互联网硬件的故事，一度占据网络路由器超过80%的市场份额。投资者看好互联网的前景，进而看好思科。这跟今天的英伟达非常相似。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　投资人的推断逻辑是：每一轮科技变革，往往都从硬件开始。20多年前是思科，10年前是苹果，今天是英伟达。所以英伟达值得被高估。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　1999年初，思科的市值占到整个美股的2.5%。即便如此，随后一年它的股价又涨了两倍，成为美股市值最高的公司。今天，即便英伟达已经是美股第四大公司，还是有人押注它的股价将涨到1300美元。这样的话，它的市值将达到3.4万亿美元，超越微软和苹果，排名美股第一。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　两家公司的路径太相似了。不过，2001年互联网泡沫破灭，思科的股价跌去三分之二，至今再未达到当年高点。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　有人做了一张对比图，将思科从1996年到2002年的股价走势，与英伟达2020年至今的走势叠加在一起，发现有很大重合。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/994d4aac91a37001f543f0dea0dd190f\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"606\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　归根到底，英伟达的业绩和股价，完全建立人们对AI时代的信仰上。只要这个信仰不灭，英伟达的神话就能继续，否则全都是泡沫。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　华尔街明星基金经理“木头姐”说，AI热潮并非泡沫，但市场期待过高，英伟达涨过头了。此前她已经抛售了英伟达股票。另一位投资人认为，英伟达的股价透支了未来十年的业绩表现。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　在备受关注的四季度财报发布之后，CEO黄仁勋对外传递信号，继续强调加速计算和生成式AI，声称AI时代的临界点已经到来。“全球各地的企业、行业和国家需求都在激增。”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　挑战也显而易见。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达的大客户们，一方面继续向英伟达采购GPU，同时也在加速开发替代品。巨头们不会让英伟达独享这一巨大市场。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　最新消息是，微软正在研发一款新的网卡产品，以提高其AI芯片Maia的性能，最终达到减少对英伟达产品依赖的目的。OpenAI创始人奥特曼正在四处奔走，接触各路投资人，以研发自己的AI芯片。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达的老对手AMD、英特尔，更是步步紧逼，相继推出直接对标英伟达H100的产品。今年，它们的产品将迎来更新，加速瓜分英伟达的客户。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　英伟达一统江湖的格局，或许不会持续太久。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">　　当然，在格局重塑之前，英伟达还会再飞一会。美股的AI狂欢，目前没有降温的迹象。当人们是在为“市梦率”买单，支撑英伟达超越微软、苹果的，就只有信仰了。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1690343385125","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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| 黎明　　如果大模型是淘金热，英伟达就是卖铲人。科技巨头、创业公司、中东土豪，把大把的钱送给英伟达，换成AI芯片去开发大模型。　　大模型是不是金矿不重要，手里有没有铲子很重要。作为底层算力的提供方，英伟达从大模型军备竞赛中获益。众人哄抢，造成“一铲难求”，英伟达被推上神坛。　　2024年以来，英伟达的股价上涨超过60%，而在2023年它已经涨了两倍多。它的市值先后超过亚马逊、谷歌，达到接近2万亿美金，成为美股第三、全球第四大公司。　　现在，英伟达已经正式取代特斯拉，成为美股成交量最大的公司。它一个晚上的成交额能超过600亿美金，是特斯拉的3倍多。　　整个AI圈几乎要被英伟达“绑架”了。英伟达的股价一直涨，推动AI狂欢继续；只要它的业绩继续超预期，就证明AI不完全是泡沫。　　因此，英伟达的四季度财报，就具有了分水岭的意义。它要么终结这一波AI狂欢，美股掉头向下，要么继续推波助澜，再创新高。　　英伟达财报公布前一天，股价提前下跌4.35%，出现今年年内最大单日跌幅；财报公布当天，股价再跌2.85%。然而，财报正式发布后，由于业绩大超预期，股价大涨超过16%，一个晚上市值增加2770亿美元，创美股史上最高单日市值增幅。　　英伟达汇集了人们对AI的信仰。但一个“卖铲子”的公司，真的值2万亿美金吗？是谁在爆炒英伟达？　　一张卡，两波浪潮　　现在人们一提起英伟达，必然提到AI。其实英伟达最早的故事，跟AI没有任何关系，它是从一张卡开始的。　　PC时代，大部分高端PC都会配备CPU和GPU。CPU即中央处理器，GPU是图形处理器，前者由几个高效的计算核心组成，擅长通用计算，后者拥有上千颗小计算单元，适合大规模并行计算，尤其擅长图形和视频。　　所谓“计算机”，首先得有计算能力，这两块芯片就是给电脑提供算力的，属于底层硬件。　　英伟达做的是GPU，其实就是电脑显示芯片，或者说游戏显卡。过去很多年里，英伟达超过一半的收入都来自游戏业务。可以说，打游戏的人养活了这家公司。这是一门看起来相对传统的生意。　　意外的是，GPU并行计算的特点，非常适合AI计算。2012年深度卷积神经网络（CNN）被发明后，深度学习进入新阶段。训练神经网络需要庞大的计算资源，而GPU的性能和效率远超过CPU。所有“鸡蛋”都在GPU这一个篮子里的英伟达，踩上了AI时代的浪潮。　　第一波浪潮发生在2016年，起因是谷歌的AlphaGo战胜了韩国围棋高手李世石。一大批公司进军人工智能，加大深度学习研究。　　英伟达讲了三个故事——游戏、AI计算、自动驾驶。第一个故事是老本行，负责赚钱，后两个故事描绘前景，拉升股价。　　当时，云厂商纷纷在自己的云平台部署英伟达GPU，以增强计算能力。美国的几个科技巨头，以及中国的BAT，都成为英伟达的客户。　　那会儿还涌现出一大批自动驾驶公司，它们被视为人工智能技术的重要落地场景。英伟达和百度、大众、Uber等达成合作，还投资了自动驾驶公司景驰、图森科技，以推销自己的GPU。　　2017年，英伟达成为全球最大的独立GPU厂商，占据70%的市场份额。　　这个故事足够吸引人。从2015年到2017年，英伟达的收入只增长了50%，但股价涨了8倍。　　巧的是，区块链又给这个故事添了一把火。2017年，比特币、以太坊等加密货币价格暴涨，引发“挖矿潮”。“挖矿”就是通过高速计算来获取加密货币，需要用到显卡，显卡越多，挖矿速度越快，赚钱越快。于是，很多人四处购买英伟达GPU，一度被买断货。　　加密货币助推英伟达股价大涨。到了2018年10月，英伟达股价超过290美元。　　第二波浪潮发生在2022年，触发点是OpenAI发布ChatGPT。　　这一次可以视为人工智能的复兴，因为AI行业过去画的几个大饼——自动驾驶、元宇宙，都是一地鸡毛。英伟达讲的几个故事，也都是草草结尾。在ChatGPT于2022年10月底诞生之前，英伟达的股价跌到了108美元。　　接下来的故事很多人知道了。AI创业卷土重来，生成式AI成为风口，大模型打头阵。随后，英伟达的股价在一年多时间里涨了6倍。　　这两波浪潮有很多共同点，比如：催化剂都是AI，算力资源被疯抢，科技圈很狂热，英伟达最先受益。　　卖铲子的先赚到金子　　相比第一波浪潮，这一波有几个新特点。首先，几乎所有科技巨头都相信，必须训练自己的大模型，为此可以不计成本投入。另外，英伟达真正从中赚到了钱。这是支撑英伟达股价大涨的前提。　　八年前英伟达卖了很多卡，但最后实际用于AI计算的不多，它的营收支柱还是游戏业务。这从财报中可见一斑。　　英伟达的收入来自五大板块——游戏、数据中心、专业视觉、汽车、OEM。其中最核心的是游戏和数据中心，AI计算相关的收入都归入数据中心。　　2017年，游戏业务收入55亿美元，数据中心19亿美元，二者占比分别为57%、20%。那会儿英伟达也对外讲AI计算的故事，但风口还不够大。　　也是从那一年开始，英伟达从传统电脑向人工智能转型，数据中心的收入占比逐年提高。而转型的效果直到五年后才彻底体现，一直等到ChatGPT问世。2022年，英伟达数据中心收入150亿美元，占比56%，首次超过游戏业务。　　这是一个重要的转折点。人们开始相信，这一波AI浪潮很真实，因为英伟达的客户们已经用真金白银投票。　　生成式AI被很多人认为是十年一遇甚至百年一遇的大风口，英伟达的GPU又是训练大模型必不可少的硬件。在硅谷，英伟达的A100和H100是“硬通货”，有钱还不一定买得到。有一家创业公司融资23亿美金，给投资机构的抵押物，正是其拥有的英伟达GPU。　　Meta 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